Finally we agree with the judge that there is nothing in Societe Eram G Shipping Co Ltd v Cie Internationale de Navigation [Zooq.~ z AC Z6o which suggests or requires a different conclusion. Mr Edward Cohen relies upon the approach of the House of Lords to the construction of CPR r ~z.z(z), which the House did not construe literally. He relies upon the approach of Lord Hoffmann, at para q.s, where Lord I~offmann said in the context of a reference to "aIl debts" in RSC Ord q. S, r z: